我会把真相告诉更多的德国人！
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洋装虽然穿在身，我心依然是中国心

我上过青藏高原。西藏分两派.四川-甘肃-拉萨这一带为达赖的势力范围,他们不承认以日喀则为中心的班禅.
达赖是属于皇室,班禅属于丞相.最大的是大宝法王,宗教上大宝法王尽管统领达赖和班禅,但他的低调,以至不为人知,也丧失了权利.。
藏族人对我这个汉人很好，就像新疆人和在西安的穆斯林一样对我也很好。我很难想象藏族人他们都象达赖的那些疯狂追随者那样烧店烧人。很多藏族人不懂汉语，很单纯，是很容易被利用 ，教唆的。 我对藏族人和在藏族寺庙的感觉跟对达赖感觉太不一样了。 两次亲眼见过教皇，对教皇感觉和对达赖感觉也不一样。虽然我什么教徒都不是，可是因为对各种文化的好奇 拜访过不同宗教的圣地。信仰是美好的事情，可是总被利益集团利用。在德国要教教堂税，我身边的德国人几乎都因此退出教会。 他们说大概只有2%的德国人是真正的虔诚教徒。 留在教会的大都因为小孩。 因为小孩9或10 岁的时候有个仪式叫Kommunion(圣餐仪式)， 到时亲戚朋友都给红包，我下星期就有一个这样的邀请。圣餐仪式之后他们就打算退出教会不教教堂税。资本主义的德国社会是以钱为先。反而觉得这的中国人信教还比他们虔诚。平凡德国人怎会为了达赖去跟中国做对，除非给钱。 这的政客为了选票，电视为了收视率，报纸为了销量， 网站为了点击率。。。他们总理跟达赖见面，我周围的德国人不知道中国为什么不高兴，问我， 我说，中国支持Bayern 闹独立你们愿意吗？他们说不愿意。我说对西藏跟这差不多。我还说我不是政府迷或达赖迷，中国对我意味着家和根的感觉，我的父母这样教育我，我的父母的父母这样教育我的父母：去了哪不要丢了自己的根。德国这样对我的家让我觉得德国在伤害我的根。之后他们很严肃很认真地告诉我，下次选总理肯定不选默克尔和她的政党。越来越多的德国人被我这样影响着，然后喜欢上中国文化。呵呵， 我知道在这会有不满我的人因此对我抛砖头。呵呵，我不能改变媒体什么， 可我能影响周围的德国人了解真相，让他们去批评指正控告他们的媒体，正如我周围的德国人开始跟我一起抵制日货一样，这是我对故乡所献的微薄之力。......洋装虽然穿在身，我心依然是中国心......。

--小草根
<mailto:su38105@yahoo.de>

标 题: 纽约反藏独游行
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 4 21:35:05 2008)

以下是申请游行的连接。

http://home2.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/permits.shtml

大家赶紧先商量一下游行的路线，和集会的地点吧。我查了一下，有两个地方不错，

1。CNN - www.cnn.com
10 Columbus Cir, New York - (212) 314-0140
这儿比较大，靠近中央公园。可以聚很多人。

2。Cnn New York
1 Chase Manhattan Plz, New York - (212) 509-0252
这儿在downtown.

时间地点定下来之后，就可以提出申请了。

标 题: 纽约反藏独游行
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 4 21:35:05 2008)

以下是申请游行的连接。

http://home2.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/permits.shtml

大家赶紧先商量一下游行的路线，和集会的地点吧。我查了一下，有两个地方不错，

1。CNN - www.cnn.com
10 Columbus Cir, New York - (212) 314-0140
这儿比较大，靠近中央公园。可以聚很多人。

2。Cnn New York
1 Chase Manhattan Plz, New York - (212) 509-0252
这儿在downtown.

时间地点定下来之后，就可以提出申请了。

Please keep a cool heart when discussing these issues. There are many sides to this story and it is important for all of us to try to understand the world from different perspectives. For many of us, it is enough to try to understand without necessarily coming to conclusions. As a Canadian, for example, I do not have to come to a conclusion or make a judgement - but I do have the responsibility to seek to understand the perspectives of those involved. I have the responsibility not to knee-jerk my way into a judgement, I have the responsibility to be patient, to cut through emotion to seek logic. Patience and forgiveness are important parts of learning.

I should also be rigorous in rhetoric - it is not ok to be a sheep; it is not ok to just follow heated emotion; it is not ok to be ignorant particularly when there is so much information around us.

For example, to compare 400 possibly knife wielding Buddhist monks or some hot-headed and young men and woman to Nazis is, in my opinion, utter nonsense - it is nonsense because it, in my opinion, shows the speaker to have a complete lack of understanding of the horrors of the Nazi regime had in destroying amongst others 6 000 000 Jews, as well as gypsies, political dissidents, homosexuals and others who were not in favour during Hitler's stay on this world. It is ignorant to make such a comparison but unless you are informed of the Nazi horror, you may easily make these statements.

It is hard to reconcile feelings of anger and hurt and outrage and confusion mixed with other feelings of nationalism and pride. It is hard to understand what is true when there are so many opinions being flung about.

It is extremely important to seek information - unbiased information or information that is balanced with other information. Hard facts are sometimes difficult to come by while hearsay and gossip and rumour seem too easy to believe, particularly if we sit on one side of the fence - we believe what our emotions already tell us.. but this may not be the truth.

Be rigorous in finding information.. be hard on the problem, be soft on the people.

I thank the creators of this site for their efforts. I hope my words have not offended any one.
--patrick
<mailto:locke1@hotmail.com>

Seriously, do you people think the whole western world is stupid or ill-motivated? That Dalai can deceive everyone from presidents to interllects?

I'm from china, I love my country, and I have been to Tibet, and made friends with many monks, they are the purest people in the world, not asking for anything.
Don't you wonder, what have the government done to them to push them to stand up? my history might not be great, but i can only recall 2 times buddhist monks have involved in protests, out of the thousand years of buddhism history. Awhile ago in burma and now in tibet. Don't chinese ever wonder why? Or just think that Dalai is the almighty, who can deceive everyone in Tibet, and in the outside world? and the chinese are the only smart people who can see through his lies?

I live in the US, and when people ask me about situation in Tibet, I don't tell them the truth, I can only tell them that the truth is blockaded by the chinese government. That is the only truth I can speak of...

I guess i am offending people here... I apologize, but I just don't understand why even my fellow chinese are demonize Dalai, when for so many years he has walked his talk of non-violence.

Seriously, do you people think the whole western world is stupid or ill-motivated? That Dalai can deceive everyone from presidents to interllects?

I'm from china, I love my country, and I have been to Tibet, and made friends with many monks, they are the purest people in the world, not asking for anything.
Don't you wonder, what have the government done to them to push them to stand up? my history might not be great, but i can only recall 2 times buddhist monks have involved in protests, out of the thousand years of buddhism history. Awhile ago in burma and now in tibet. Don't chinese ever wonder why? Or just think that Dalai is the almighty, who can deceive everyone in Tibet, and in the outside world? and the chinese are the only smart people who can see through his lies?

I live in the US, and when people ask me about situation in Tibet, I don't tell them the truth, I can only tell them that the truth is blockaded by the chinese government. That is the only truth I can speak of...

I guess i am offending people here... I apologize, but I just don't understand why even my fellow chinese are demonize Dalai, when for so many years he has walked his talk of non-violence.

The following videos should be good additions to this website:

Tibet, China - NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nQNLwh4S8I&feature=related

Tibet-The Truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY

thanks. One of them is added in the history page

揭露DL的网站和VIDEO，不知道有人贴过没有：

The Secret Truth about The Dalai Lama
http://www.newspiritualbible.com/index2.html

Seven Lies about Tibet and His Holiness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acHkXqik_Bo

Seven + One Lies on Tibet and His Holiness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxvzXFopQe0

Whatever,all what Chinese govenment is doing is to keep Chinese social stable,to keep Chinese and other millions people from suffering of war.There are many problems with Chinese govement,but they are working on it.Roma is not build in one night.We want peace

I'd like to provide some links, articles, books here so that we learn more about Tibet, Dalai Lama and those behind Dalai Lama.

1:
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
"Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" by Michael Parenti

2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=278503142787331149
"Tibet Diary" by 2 young Americans who traveled to Tibet

3:
"Who was behind violence in Tibet?"
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8625

4:
http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Index.htm
"The Shadow of the Dalai Lama: Sexuality, Magic and Politics in Tibetan Buddhism" by Victor and Victoria Trimondi who used to be Dalai Lama's admirers which gave the chance to exam him closely

5:
http://www.whale.to/b/trimondi.html
"Dalai Lama and 9/11" - interview with Victor & Victoria Trimondi

6:
Kishore Mahbubani："The west is the biggest threat to the world today"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIaVB-k7QlY&eur

7:
"A History of Modern Tibet, 1913-1951: The Demise of the Lamaist State"
by Melvyn C. Goldstein
ISBN-10: 0520075900
ISBN-13: 978-0520075900
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0520075900/
&
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0520249410
"A History of Modern Tibet, volume 2: The Calm before the Storm: 1951-1955"
ISBN-10: 0520249410
ISBN-13: 978-0520249417

8:
There is a online verion of "A History of Modern Tibet" by Melvyn Goldstein. The link is here but only members of Univ of California can view it:
http://ark.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/ft4m3nb2v7

To be continued.

None of these works is translated from Chinese. All the arthurs are westerners and Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is Indian.

Thanks,

Amy from Canada
--Amy
<mailto:monkeyking.oxy@gmail.com>

I'd like to provide some links, articles, books here so that we learn more about Tibet, Dalai Lama and those behind Dalai Lama.

1:
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
"Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" by Michael Parenti

2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=278503142787331149
"Tibet Diary" by 2 young Americans who traveled to Tibet

3:
"Who was behind violence in Tibet?"
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8625

4:
http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Index.htm
"The Shadow of the Dalai Lama: Sexuality, Magic and Politics in Tibetan Buddhism" by Victor and Victoria Trimondi who used to be Dalai Lama's admirers which gave the chance to exam him closely

5:
http://www.whale.to/b/trimondi.html
"Dalai Lama and 9/11" - interview with Victor & Victoria Trimondi

6:
Kishore Mahbubani："The west is the biggest threat to the world today"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIaVB-k7QlY&eur

7:
"A History of Modern Tibet, 1913-1951: The Demise of the Lamaist State"
by Melvyn C. Goldstein
ISBN-10: 0520075900
ISBN-13: 978-0520075900
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0520075900/
&
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0520249410
"A History of Modern Tibet, volume 2: The Calm before the Storm: 1951-1955"
ISBN-10: 0520249410
ISBN-13: 978-0520249417

8:
There is a online verion of "A History of Modern Tibet" by Melvyn Goldstein. The link is here but only members of Univ of California can view it:
http://ark.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/ft4m3nb2v7

To be continued.

None of these works is translated from Chinese. All the arthurs are westerners and Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is Indian.

Thanks,

Amy from Canada
--Amy
<mailto:monkeyking.oxy@gmail.com>